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#1 nath

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Posted 14 May 2006 - 08:25 PM

hello :)

reading my first Suzanne Brockmann's novel which happens to be Hot Target and I really like Jules Cassidy :D and I was wondering in which other books did he appear? and does he find sunlight at the end?

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 06:50 PM

I'm not sure and my brain isn't that good in this area at the moment, but I think he was mentioned in the very first book, The Unsung Hero, along with Alyssa Locke. If not I'm pretty sure he was in the book with the hijacked plane, Over the Edge (#3)
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 07:15 PM

We don't know yet if Jules finds sunshine, Hot Target is the latest book. But I believe I read that Brockmann does plan something for him in future.

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Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:00 AM

I'm reviving this topic because I'm right in the middle of "Force of Nature," and I'm wondering if anyone has read it yet?? WAY more Jules in this one, and he's back with Robin.

And a question....

There's way more "intimate" scenes with Jules in this one. Not like Eve & Roarke intimate, but more than there has been before.

So, my question is...

Have you read this kind of thing before in books (gay relationships)? Do you get creeped out when reading it? Do you enjoy it? Do you think there needs to be more of it? Less?

For me, I liked it, because...I think intimacy is intimacy. If the characters engage you (which for me, the whole "Jules and Robin" thing does) then it doesn't matter if they're hetero or gay. I still find myself feeling for the characters and getting caught up in the whole relationship, both sexual and emotional.

What about you all?

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Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:26 AM

Have you read this kind of thing before in books (gay relationships)? Do you get creeped out when reading it? Do you enjoy it? Do you think there needs to be more of it? Less?

For me, I liked it, because...I think intimacy is intimacy. If the characters engage you (which for me, the whole "Jules and Robin" thing does) then it doesn't matter if they're hetero or gay. I still find myself feeling for the characters and getting caught up in the whole relationship, both sexual and emotional.

What about you all?

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No, I have never read this kind of book before but I think I'd approach it pretty much the same as I would a hetero romance book though I'd probably 'relate' to it even less. It was just a few years ago when I first noticed a book or two showing up in the bookstore where I worked that had gay couples as its heroes or heroines.

Frankly, I don't care for any book/movie/television/etc. that has, as its focus, people doing whatever they can to get someone into bed with them - or graphic sex. I don't particularly want to read or see the sex bits ... one reason I like classic movies as I get along much better with the whole pan away, fade to black, whatever. (I had the misfortune of watching Bolero [remember that?] just over twenty years ago, having no idea what it was about, and thinking 'holy blithers!' ... had the same reaction when I saw an episode of 'Queer as Folk' and knew I'd made a serious mistake in my curiosity. :blink: )

If the focus of the books is the relationship between two people, what could be wrong with that? But I tend to be a believer that what other people do with other consenting adults is absolutely none of my business. That these books are making their way into the mainstream is, I think, a very good sign that (hopefully) we're learning to be more tolerant.

I'd say (carefully) that it might be good if there was more of it as long as it's well-written and well-done. I'd hate to see the market flooded (I doubt it's likely) by poor quality work as it could hurt the credibility of the better authors. Especially since this subject is, for many, still taboo and a potential target for the morality police. It takes very little for them to start slinging stones, after all. But if the characters are well-developed, the book has an engaging plot, etc. I think it'd be pretty much the same.

But, again, I haven't ever read it. So I guess you can take me with a grain of salt (for anyone who doesn't already :) ).
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 12:44 PM

I haven't read Force of Nature yet. For that matter, I haven't read Into the Storm yet!

So, I haven't read a book with gay relationships yet and if I knew that was the main topic in a book I wouldn't. I love SB Seal series (both) and I'm sure that there'll be lots of action in it, so I will read FoN. I can't say yet if it will bother me, but I think it won't if it isn't to graphic, which I gather from what you said, it's not. I wouldn't be asking for more, though.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 07:07 PM

Ok, so now that I've finished with this one, I have to say that I liked it a lot. This was very much Jules' book. There's a "straight" couple in the book, too (Ric and Annie), who I really didn't feel much of a connection for, and I have to wonder whether or not she purposely put them more into the "background" to focus more on Jules.

But, regardless, I really liked the book, liked how she handled Jules and Robin's story.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 09:05 PM

Have you read this kind of thing before in books (gay relationships)? Do you get creeped out when reading it? Do you enjoy it? Do you think there needs to be more of it? Less?


Yup. Emma Holly writes it. Nope I was not creeped out. Good reads.

I think SB won't go into details in future books. She still writes romantic suspence. But if she wants to write different the readers should get to know. Fair enough.





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Posted 26 September 2007 - 09:10 PM

Yeah I've read books where there are gay relationships, but mainly in the fantasy genre. The first i read was a trilogy by Mercedes Lackey. I wasn't creeped out by it at all -it's all about how the author portrays it. As AJ said, intimacy is intimacy.



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Posted 26 September 2007 - 09:51 PM

I was looking on Amazon to see some of the reviews, and while most were positive, which is good, there are a few that go completely overboard with the hatred of the gay theme:

I've read all of Brockmann's books and especially like the series with Navy Seals. This book was so disappointing as she was so busy promoting her homosexual stance and the homosexual character, Jules, that the other characters and the main story got lost. I had to put it down after the first 150 pages as I was tired of having her pro-homosexuality views forced upon me. I read for entertainment not to be brainwashed.


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She's not advocating that EVERYONE should be gay...just that there are gay men and women out there, and they deserve love, too.

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 06:52 PM

Really not trying to necro-post, but I just finished the book in question over lunch. I think she handled the sex scenes between Robin and Jules very tastefully. I did not come away from the book wanting brain bleach, with if they had turned into gay porn (or really any porn), I very likely would have.
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Posted 28 January 2008 - 07:42 PM

For those interested in Jules and Robin's story, a holiday novella was released at the end of 2007. All the key Seals and Troubleshooter, Inc characters are involved.

Highly recommend if you are a Jules or Alyssa/Sam fans!

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Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:29 PM

For those interested in Jules and Robin's story, a holiday novella was released at the end of 2007. All the key Seals and Troubleshooter, Inc characters are involved.

Highly recommend if you are a Jules or Alyssa/Sam fans!

Yes, that was All Through The Night: A Troubleshooter's Christmas. I just read it a week or so ago.

It WAS a great story - a small mystery/suspense story with the main focus on Jules and Robin's wedding. I really enjoyed it, as I've enjoyed getting to know Jules in the year or so that I've been reading Brockmann's Navy SEALS series. I haven't read all of the books yet - just hit-and-miss as they're available at the public library. I don't think I've read Force of Nature.

As to AJ's question, there was a scene in ATTN that caught my attention. It was a scene with Jules & Robin and, while it wasn't overly graphic, it was definitely intimate and it "jolted" me slightly (searching for another word). But I wasn't revolted or repulsed; I just haven't encountered many gay scenes in other books. (Even Desert of the Heart by Jane Rule was very discreet - of course, it was published what, 30 years ago?)

As AJ and others mentioned, the scene with J&R was just very intimate and loving. It made me realize that their relationship ISN'T gay porn or scandalous. It's just another tender relationship that happens to be between 2 men, and I don't think any differently, and certainly not any less, of them because of it. I love the character Jules and I have high hopes for his and Robin's relationship. Frankly, Robin's alcoholism worries me a WHOLE lot more than the guys' sexuality.

As for Brockmann pushing a gay agenda, that's ridiculous. Yes, she's made it clear in some of her books that her son is gay and she's explained her acceptance of that, and her love and concern for him both now and as he was growing up. I don't think she's promoting a gay lifestyle - who would wish a harder life on their child or loved one? And I certainly don't feel that she's sublimated any of the other characters in her stories to "promote her homosexual stance." Her opinions are a part of her stories - as any writer's would be. That homophobe from the Amazon.com review has already been brainwashed and it wasn't by Suzanne Brockmann's books.

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 01:29 AM

I liked the relationship between Jules and Robin, I thought Suzanne Brockmann did a good job writting the story ATTN. I don't think that she is pushing an agenda, but more like exploring it to get people to think differently about an issue that is close to her heart. I think that is what all great writers try to do and she does it well.

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 08:54 PM

I read the first book in which she introduced the character of Jules Cassidy. She dedicated that book to her son who had just 'come out' [and I cannot for the life of me remember the title!]. I quite like Jules, who is an interesting lively character. I would never say [like the idiot reviewer] that she was promoting a 'gay lifestyle,' rather that she was promoting tolerance, maybe?

Have just finished two of her books [The Defiant Hero and Into the Storm] for our Murder and Mayhem meeting next week. Jules is pretty tangential to those, tho' he does appear in a neat little short story at the back of ItS.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 02:07 PM

I quit reading Judith Krantz because she got too graphic in her lesbian characters in bed. I read one author and stopped because she was too graphic with her hero/heroine in their bedroom scenes. I thought Suzanne handled the scenes with Jules and Robin in ATTN very tastefully and I enjoyed the book. she did say at the end that Jules kept bugging her for his HEA and so she gave him what he wanted. She had planned on giving him his HEA and it came sooner than later than planned for her. From what I've read on the reviews, her fans are happy and I'm looking forward to more Troubleshooters, Inc and Team Sixteen series.
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